Comments on: City councilman charged with larceny

By: Jim B

Jim B — Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:28:53 +0000

What a lot of crap being said about the guy who got ripped off. I guess this is Ray coming here to have his say.

Liars need to resign.

By: Paix

Paix — Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:59:49 +0000

LOL, yeah, let’s read it again…So he went to Huckleberry’s house and asked him if he knew anything about it. “Ray said, ‘You’re kidding, Doug, I can’t believe that!’” recalled Stein.

Yes, Ray was confused so he lied.

Honestly, I could care less about the $200. You get a real look at the character of the man. He did not say, “Dougy you had 6 months and here we are 3 years later and I sold the stuff.” Ray lied to his long time friend.

Ray lied to the guy who held the note on his business, a note Ray had not paid. Did Mr. Stein lock the door and take it back? For more than 6 months he let it go.

…and in the middle of it Ray sells the man’s stuff without saying a word to him.

Interesting, too, is this was 3 years into the business relationship. Stein said he was coming and going. If it was all about the 6 months why didn’t Ray sell the stuff earlier?

He needed money. Friendship did not matter, the courtesy of not shutting Ray down didn’t matter…

By: anonymous

anonymous — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:35:51 +0000

they’re down should not be rewarded for that.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:35:19 +0000

struggling…but you cannot tell me none of you have not been there before. What would you do if you were there? Sell some of the stuff that you owned to help you and your family out. Technically, Ray did own that stuff even if he wasn’t paying his monthly payments, just as anyone that is foreclosed on would still be the owners until the day the deed was taken back by the bank.
So call Ray a liar, a thief, whatever you want. Just put yourself in his position before you open your mouth and think about it from a different perspective than what you have been persuaded to believe. Anyone that knows Ray, knows that he would never do anything with intent to hurt someone. He’s very kind hearted and has always looked out for others before he has thought about himself. This whole situation is completely blown out of proportion. The already horrible situation is made into a disaster by none other than your local neighbor Mr. Stein. Anyone that is that cold hearted to kick someone when…

By: anonymous

anonymous — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:33:41 +0000

Do any of you know what really happened??? Apparently not. The Steins had 180 days to get anything they wanted out of the pizza shop including the upstairs. As jeanson nicely stated, if these signs that were sold for a mere $200 were so valuable, Mr. Stein should have not have abandoned them as they did.
Ray did not lie to the cops, he was confused by the document that was given to him. Mr. Stein gave the detective a copy that DID NOT include the clause of getting all property out within 180 days of the signed lease. In fact, the first time the detective even saw this copy that included this was on the court day while court was in session!!! If Mr. Stein had been an honest person, he would have given the detectives every piece of documentation that he had. Ray was confused and gave Mr. Stein the benefit of the doubt, but when he double checked it, he saw what was given to the detectives and what was the actual signed lease, were two different things.
And yes, we all know Ray was…

By: Paix

Paix — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:21:37 +0000

It is time to go away Ray. Resign

By: Jim B

Jim B — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:57:14 +0000

jeanson I looked online and the pizza place started in March 2006. The 6 months things is so much bull. I agree there is more to the story. It says Huckleberry stops paying Stein his lease payments in January 2009. He closes the store last summer.

So why sell the stuff last year while he is not paying his bills? He needed cash, that’s why. That is why it happened three years later after letting the man use the room past 180 days.

He may have found himself a loophole, but he cannot escape what a lying and dishonest man he is. He lied to the cops, he lied to his friend and it was okay to let his employees be looked at for the crime.

This man needs to vacate his office, now, Cedar Springs needs people with real character, not Loophole Ray.

By: Abe Meir

Abe Meir — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:23:42 +0000

Mr. Huckleberry you owe us all a resignation. Your values and self centered acting out may or may not be criminal, but people who treat their friends the way you do also violates his public trust.

By: jeanson

jeanson — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:08:41 +0000

Seems to me if these items were treasure’s to Mr. Stein he would of had removed them prior to selling the business to Mr. Huckelberry, but it sounds like there is more more to the story than what is being told and Mr. Huckleberry should do the time if he did the crime.

By: Paix

Paix — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:46:22 +0000

I did not call over to the Court. It is pretty clear, from his own admission, he cannot tell the truth to a life long friend, or the cops for that matter.

Ray’s character is something I’ve known for a long time. Regardless of whether you want to call this a crime, the guy did a pretty underhanded thing to someone who was a friend.

So I guess I was right.